2124. At the time of the wreck?
- Yes, sir.
2125. What was his mental condition? Did he seem to be lucid?
- No, sir. No, sir; he seemed to be all right.
2126. How?
- He seemed to be all right.
2127. I say, he seemed to be all right, did he, mentally?
- Yes, sir.
2128. And did he receive messages, to your knowledge?
- Yes, sir.
2129. And answer them?
- Yes, sir.
2130. Do you know any that he sent or received?
- It was Mr. Bride who sent the third class names to the Chester, sir.
2131. Any other message?
- I have no record of it here, sir; the records are all on the Carpathia.
2132. No other message that you can recollect?
- No, sir. He did send some, sir, but I can not remember when or what they were.
2133. Did you know at the time?
- Yes, sir.
2134. And if he had sent any message such as I have indicated, that the Titanic was being towed to Halifax and the passengers were safe, you would have known it, would you not?
- Yes, sir.
2135. And you would not have permitted it?
- No, sir.
2136. He did not in fact send it?
- No, sir.
2137. Send such message?
- No, sir.
2138. Can you now tell just how long Mr. Bride was at the instrument?
- He was on and off the instrument, and took a watch occasionally, sir.
2139. Took a watch occasionally?
- Yes, sir.
2140. Did you stand watch alone all of the time, with the exception of the short time that you were overtaken by slumber and the time you were relieved by Mr. Bride, from Sunday evening until at your arrival in New York?
- Yes, sir.
2141. And had the responsibility for the work of the wireless on the Carpathia?
- Yes, sir.
2142. Has anybody talked to you since you have been in New York that was aboard the boat with reference to any messages that were sent or received?
- I heard about the message being put about, about the Titanic being bound for Halifax, sir.
2143. Tell us what you were asked.
- I was asked by somebody abroad, I can not remember who it was, whether I sent the message or not.
2144. Were you asked by Mr. Ismay?
- No, sir.
2145. Were you asked by some officer of the Carpathia?
- No, sir.
2146. Were you asked by any of the crew?
- No, sir.
2147. Or by any of the passengers?
- I believe it was after we arrived in New York I heard about it, sir.
2148. After you arrival at the Cunard docks you were asked that question?
- Yes, sir.
2149. Do you know who interrogated you?
- No, sir; I do not. I can not remember at all, sir. I was too busy at the time.
2150. Would you know the man if you saw him?
- I don't suppose I would, sir; I did not take any notice of him at the time.
2151. Have you seen him since?
- I do not know, sir.
2152. How soon after you reached the Cunard dock were you asked that question?
- I can not say. I do not recollect anything concerning the question at all.
2153. Was it immediately after you reached dock?
- I can not remember anything about it; only remember being asked after we arrived in New York, sir.
2154. What were you asked? Just state what was said to you and your reply.
- I was asked if I had sent the message to shore to the effect that the Titanic was being towed into Halifax, and of course I said I had not.
2155. That you had not?
- No, sir.
2156. Did you say anything more?
- No, sir.
2157. Did the person who addressed you say anything more?
- No, sir. I believe it was a reporter. I can not remember, sir. I believe it was a reporter.
2158. You do not know who it was?
- No, sir; I can not remember at all.
2159. Did you have any conversation with Mr. Bride about that matter?
- No, sir; I did not. I never spoke to him about it.
2160. Did he have any conversation with you about it?
- No, sir.
2161. I understood you to say yesterday that the wireless apparatus on the Carpathia was rather out of date?
- Yes, sir.
2162. And not in very good condition?
- The set itself is in good condition for what it is, sir; but it is an old-fashioned type.
2163. An old-fashioned type?
- Yes.
2164. Have you any means of knowing what distance you could accurately communicate with that apparatus?
- About 250 miles, I should say, sir.
2165. When you say that this was an old type, you mean that it was limited in its power?
- Yes, sir.
2166. What was the maximum wave length that could be employed by that instrument?
- I do not know the wave length, but I was using the standard wave length of all the ships in the marine service.
2167. You say the standard wave length. What was that, 600 meters?
- Yes, sir.
2168. And you could use 600 meters, could you?
- Yes, sir.
2169. And you understand that to be the standard wave length that English ships, or ships under the flag of countries, parties to the international treaty, have prescribed?
- Yes, sir.
2170. You know that, do you?
- Yes, sir.
2171. How do you know it?
- I know that there is a rule established by the international convention to the effect that merchant ships are not permitted to use wave lengths other than 600 and 300 meters.
2172. Merchant ships have the 600 maximum and the 300 minimum?
- Yes, sir
Senator Smith:
Is that right, Mr. Marconi?
Mr. Marconi:
Yes, sir; that is right.
2173. And you were able to meet these regulations with these instruments, fairly satisfactorily?
- Yes, sir; most of the time I was not using an attuned set at all. It was plain aerial and emitting unattuned oscillations.
2174. Just explain that.
- There is no wave length at all to what we call plain aerial, sir. Any ships within the radius of 250 miles or under would get it; it would not matter, hardly, what adjustment they were standing by on.
2175. Is that reliable?
- Yes, sir.
2176. That is simply general transmission to offices within a limited radius?
- Yes, sir.
2177. I believe you said you were 21 years of age?
- Yes, sir.
2178. And that you had been an operator for about four or five years?
- About three years.
2179. About three years?
- About three years.
2180. And that your wages were £4 10s?
- Yes, sir; per month.
2181. And board?
- Yes, sir.
2182. And that your room was provided for you in your office?
- Yes, sir.
2183. I am not quite satisfied to leave your statement yesterday to the effect that no regular office hours are prescribed by your regulations.
- No, sir; the operator uses his own discretion, but he is responsible if any thing should go wrong at all.
2184. Well, what do you do with your time when you are away from the instrument? How do you pass your time; where do you pass it? You can not find much society at the place where your office is located on the boat.
- No, sir.
2185. Where do you go; what do you do - mingle with the crew?
- Mingle with the crew or go on deck.
2186. Where?
- On deck or in their rooms.
2187. On deck or in their rooms?
- Yes, sir.
2188. And the number of times you shall go to your office and your instrument is entirely discretionary with you?
- Yes, sir; the Marconi Co. issues charts showing us when the ships come along, sir.
2189. Then when you caught this message from the Titanic, this distress message, you caught it not because you were there by any regulation of your company at that particular time?
- No, sir.
2190. But rather accidentally?
- Yes, sir
2191. I believe you said you had the telephone on your ear when you started to disrobe and get ready to retire for the night?
- Yes, sir.
2192. You kept this telephone on your ear, that you might not miss anything just before getting into bed?
- I had just previously called the Parisian and I was waiting for a reply to see if there was one coming.
2193. If that reply from the Parisian had been received, that would have ended your work for the night, would it?
- Yes, sir. I should have replied again; I should have finished for the night.
2194. That was a commercial communication?
- Yes, sir; it would have been if I had ever caught the Parisian, but I did not catch him; apparently he had gone to bed.
2195. Apparently the operator on the Parisian had gone to bed?
- Yes, sir.
2196. You assumed that he had gone to bed?
- Yes, sir.
2197. What was the hour?
- The hour was about 11 o'clock, sir, New York time.
2198. You kept the telephone on your ear that you might get a reply from the Parisian, if possible, before you retired?
- Yes, sir.
2199. Now, while you had this telephone apparatus on your head, and were preparing for bed, you caught this communication from the Titanic?
- Not just then, sir; it was about five minutes afterwards.
2200. About five minutes?
- Afterwards.
2201. After you had attempted to get a reply from the Parisian?
- Yes, sir.
2202. If you had not had this telephone arrangement on your head, and had been preparing for bed, was there anything on that instrument that would have alarmed you or signaled you to the board?
- No, sir; nothing whatever.
2203. Nothing whatever?
- No, sir.
2204. So that the communication from the Titanic reached you by the merest accident?
- Yes, sir.
2205. Providentially?
- Yes, sir.
2206. And the first message - just repeat it to the reporter.
- The first message was saying, "Come at once. It is a C. Q. D., old man." That is the distress call. Then he sent his position.
2207. What was the "old man"? What did that mean?
- It is simply a complimentary remark that is passed in wireless-telegraph service.
2208. That was a pretty serious time for complimentary remarks, was it not? Did you transmit it to the captain in the form in which it came?
- No, sir; there was not necessity to put that on, sir.
2209. You struck off the 'old man'?
- Yes, sir; but I reported it verbally.
2210. Was that 'old man' intended for you?
- For me, sir.
2211. You appropriated those two words, and took the balance of it to the captain?
- Yes, sir.
2212. From that minute you were in communication with the Titanic until the last message came about between 1 and 2 o'clock in the morning?
- No, sir; it was 11.55, New York time, when I received the last message from the Titanic.
2213. 11.55?
- Yes.
2214. That was the message which said that the boiler room was filling with water?
- Yes, sir.
2215. "Come," or anything?
- He said, "Come as quickly as possible." He said, "She is taking water, and it is up to the boilers."
2216. You took that message to the captain?
- Yes, sir.
2217. And the captain replied?
- Yes, sir.
2218. In order to have this I am going to run the risk of repetition. We should like to have you give the captain's reply.
- The captain told me to go and tell the Titanic he was making toward the position given as quickly as possible; that he had a double watch in the engine room and she was making a good 15 and perhaps 16 knots. He told me to tell her to get the boats ready, as we had got ours all ready.
2219. Lifeboats?
- Yes, sir.
2220. Did you send any other message after that?
- Yes, sir; I repeated the message many times, sir.
2221. You repeated that message many times?
- Yes.
2222. But you got the answer?
- I got no answer; no, sir.
2223. And never did receive an answer to that last message?
- No, sir.
2224. Did you get an answer to that last message from any other ship?
- No, sir.
2225. Or other office?
- No, sir.
Senator Smith:
I think that is all. You may step aside. I will ask Mr. Bride to take the stand.