United States Senate Inquiry

Day 18

Testimony of Herbert J. Haddock and E. J. Moore, cont.

5.20 p.m., Californian sends through following ice report.

Icebergs and field ice in 42.3 north. 49.9 west, 41.34 north, 50.09 west. He tells us he is 200 miles out of his course.

5.45 p. m., Received following from the Carpathia:

Private to Capt. Haddock. Olympic

Captain, chief, first, and sixth officers, and all engineers gone. Also doctor, all pursers, one Marconi operator, and chief steward gone. We have second, third, fourth, and fifth officers and one Marconi operator on board.

At the same time, sir, the following:

Carpathia
CAPTAIN Olympic:
Will send names immediately we can. You can understand we are working under considerable difficulty. Everything possible being done for comfort of survivors. Please maintain stand-by.

ROSTRON

5.45 p. m. Carpathia then starts sending names of survivors, He says: "Please excuse sending, but am half asleep."

7.35 p. m. Received 322 first and second class passengers names from him. During the transmission of the names it was evident that the operator on Carpathia was tired out.

7.40 p. m. Sent five private messages to the Carpathia. He says the third class passengers' names and list of crew will follow later.

7.50 p. m. Trying to read Cape Race, who has a bunch of traffic for us. His signals very weak and am interfered with by atmospherics. We tried for some time, but his signals so weak impossible to read them.

8.35 p. m. Sent one private message to Californian asking if they had any survivors on board from the Titanic.

8.45 p. m. Private message from the Californian saying no Titanic survivors on board. Standing by for the Carpathia and calling him frequently. Hear nothing from him, I informed the commander that I was unable to hear anything more of Carpathia and asked, "Should I start sending list of names to Cape Race.?" He instructed me to send them. 10 p. m., on the 15th. Calling Cape Race with list of survivors, but can not hear him.

Q. The message that Rostron sent to the Associated Press I would like to have in full. - A. The time is 8.25 p.m. on Monday, the 15th.

Q. This message was relayed through the Olympic from the Carpathia, and is as follows:

Carpathia. Cunard New York and Liverpool:
Titanic struck iceberg Monday. 3 a. m., 41.16 north,. 50.14 west. Carpathia picked up many passengers in boats. Will wire further particulars later. Proceeding back to New York.

ROSTRON.

Q. Was this sent to the Cunard office or to the Associated Press? - A. It was sent to the Cunard and the Associated Press.

Q. Does your memorandum show when you transmitted this message? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. Just indicate, will you, please? - A. I sent them after I sent the list of survivors to Cape Race (quoting from report):

2.30 a. m., Completed sending list of survivors names through to Cape Race and then start sending Carpathia's service messages, after which received the following from him -

Q. Did you send this message from Capt. Rostron only after you received the list of survivors? - A. Not until after I sent the list of survivors.

Q. Then you sent this message to Capt. Rostron immediately after sending the list of survivors, which is about 2.30 a. m. of Tuesday, the 16th? - Yes.

Q. Did you have say trouble reaching Cape Race then? - A. No, sir.

Q. That message you turned over to Cape Race Coast Station without any difficulty? - A. Yes; I presume there were five altogether and I sent the whole five there.

Q. Do you know the reason why it was not received at the White Star office until the 16th? - A. No, sir.

Q. (To Mr. Moore, wireless operator.) Did you relay a message from Mr. Ismay to Mr. Franklin, New York? - A. No, sir.

Q. That was not relayed through the Olympic? - A. No, sir.

Q. (To Capt. Haddock.) Are there any messages there, Captain, that bear upon this matter? - A. These bear on the Titanic disaster.

Q. Have you got a copy of them? - A. I think I can spare a copy of it.

Q. Now, Captain, I would like to ask you when you received the first information about the sinking of the Titanic you got this information from the Titanic direct, that indicated the serious condition she was in, and you went to her relief? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. On Sunday night or Monday morning you had a message from them? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. That impressed you with its seriousness, of course? - A. Yes.

Q. At what time and at what hour did you receive your first information, whether official or unofficial, regarding the sinking? - A. I just read it out to you, sir.

Q. Was that from the Carpathia? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. You had no information from any other source than that you have referred to of the ship being sunk? - A. No, sir; none whatever.

Q. The Virginian did not advise you of any information you were not in possession of? - A. No, sir.

Q. I want to get particularly to this point. The Virginian communicated with Cape Race and Cape Race communicated with Montreal and Montreal communicated with Mr. Franklin over the telephone at 2.30 Monday morning? - A. (By Mr. Franklin.) I called them up about 2.30 and they replied at about 3.30. I told them of the rumor already heard from the Associated Press, and they advised me - about 3.30 - that they had the same rumor in Montreal.

Q. You were in position, were you not, to communicate with the Californian early Monday morning? - A. I will have to allow Mr. Moore to answer that.

(Mr. E. J. MOORE, being duly sworn, gave the following answers on examination by Senator Smith:)

Q. What is your name? - A. Ernest James Moore.

Q. Your residence? - A. Topsham, Devonshire, England.

Q. Your business? - A. Wireless operator for the Marconi Co. on the steamship Olympic.

Q. 4.52 p. m. on Monday the 15th - was that the first message from the Californian that told of the disaster? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. And of the sinking of the ship? - A. It does not mention that, sir; it only says: "Saw quantity of wreckage."

Q. After that message was received, was the coast station at Cape Race or Cable Sable communicated with giving that information? - A. No, sir.

Q. Were you at any time instructed by anyone not to give that information? - A. No, sir.

Q. (To Capt. Haddock.) Were you, Captain, at any time directed not to give any information concerning it? - A. None whatever.

Q. And your failure to give information in your possession was due to what? - A. To my desire for accuracy in such cases as that, sir.

Q. (To Operator Moore.) The Ismay message, I believe, to Islefrank, New York, which was handed to the Carpathia operator, sent after the rescue, telling Mr. Franklin what had occurred, was not sent through the Olympic? - A. No, sir; not through us.

Q. Did you receive a message from the Carpathia -

ISLEFRANK, New York:
Deeply regret advise you Titanic sank this morning after collision iceberg resulting serious loss life. Further particulars later.

BRUCE ISMAY.

A. No such message received by me, sir.

Q. You offered to take any messages from the Carpathia and communicate promptly with Cape Race? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. At that time you were then eastward of the Carpathia? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did the Carpathia operator make any effort to use your offer to transmit his messages via Cape Race? - A. No, sir.

Q. What messages did you receive from the White Star Line or Mr. Franklin from New York? - A. First message received 5,20 a. m. Monday the 15th from New York -

Capt. HADDOCK, Olympic:
Endeavor communicate Titanic and ascertain time and position, reply as soon as possible to Ismay, New York.

F. W. REDWAY.

7.35 a. m. on the same day:

NEW YORK.
COMMANDER Olympic:
Keep us posted full regarding Titanic.

FRANKLIN.

7.45 a. m.:

To ISMAY, New York:
Since midnight when her position was 41.46 north 50.14 west have been unable to communicate, we are now 310 miles from her, 9 a. m., under full power, will inform you at once if hear anything.

COMMANDER.

Q. Did you get that message from Sable Island? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. I want to call your attention to a message at 1.40 p. m. on Monday, reading as follows:

CAPE RACE AND NEW YORK.

WIRELESS OPERATOR, Olympic:
We will pay you liberally for story of rescue of Titanic passengers.

Q. Was anything done about that? - A. No, sir.

Q. You rendered no special service to the World, and received no compensation? - A. No, sir; I have received seven or eight messages to the same effect.

Q. Can you give the names of the papers? - New York Herald, the Sun, and the World.

Q. Evidently you did not answer all of them. - A. I did not send to any of them. I just made a note of that message just to show what we were receiving from time to time.

Q. Then this message was sent, New York time, Monday, the 15th - right after 1.40? - A. Yes, sir. I then informed the operator that it was no use sending me messages from newspapers asking us to send news of the Titanic, as we had no news to give.

Q. (To Capt. Haddock.) Captain, I know you have something to do and I want to hurry with you. Did you receive my information from the officers of your company, either in Liverpool or New York, requesting you not to give out information? - A. Absolutely, no.

Q. And your failure to give information when you first received it, you say, was due to your desire to make it more accurate? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. The message that you sent a little after 4 seems to be the message that was delivered to Franklin at 6.16? - A. Yes, sir.

Q. You had no suggestion from Mr. Ismay that information be withheld? - A. None whatever.

Q. And you wish to be understood as saying that no information was withheld? - A. None whatever, sir.

Q. Do you know how it happened that the Baltic did not make use of the information they had? - A. I did not know she had any, sir; I had not heard anything of the Baltic.

Q. The testimony of the operator was that they wished this information from the Carpathia and Californian early Monday morning. She was in touch with Cape Race, but she was going east and did not give the information out, I wondered whether there was any concerted action among the steamers. - A. She was out of touch of us, sir.

Q. And you stood ready to transmit any information from the Californian or Carpathia or any other ship to the coast station regarding this accident and if it was not transmitted as promptly as it should have been it was not due to your fault, but to the fault of those who failed to give you the information? - A. Yes, sir; I do not think that anybody failed to give us the information. The Carpathia had at that time a terrible job on her hands.

Q. The captain of the Carpathia wired me from Gibraltar that he gave specific instructions to relay messages from Mr. Ismay and other messages immediately through other vessels, and the fact that this message to Mr. Ismay was not relayed caused us some anxiety. We could not understand it. - A. Might I ask what time this was, sir?

Q. Mr. Ismay sent this message two hours after daylight on Monday morning as he got aboard the Carpathia, and it was delivered to Mr. Franklin on Wednesday the 17th. Do you know anything about that, Mr. Moore? - A. None whatever.

Q. When did they begin relaying messages from the Carpathia? - A. This message was handed in early on Monday morning and no doubt was sent out on Monday morning early and they did not have to relay it.

Q. (To Mr. Moore.) Did you receive any injunction from the Marconi people or anyone else to withhold information? - A. None whatever.

Q. You received no consideration for withholding it? - A. No; and none was offered to us.

Q. Tell me whether it has been your practice to accept anything for information which comes to you as a wireless operator? - A. No; I have never received anything from anyone.

Q. Would you consider it proper to receive anything? - A. No, sir; I should not.

Q. Can you tell us anything that will tend to throw any light upon the matter we are inquiring into that you have not been asked? - A. I do not think so, sir; my report covers the whole thing as far as we are concerned.

(Witnesses Excused.)